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Episode · 1 year ago

Guest: Atiba Madyun, #GaetzGate

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Political analyst and president and founder of Party Politics US, Atiba Madyun, talks about why Democrats must push to get rid of the filibuster. 

And, the latest with Matt Gaetz.

It is the week of April twelve. What's going on? We're back after a little week off. Jason and Katie were on vacation, but they're here now. We decided to take the whole week off because you guys are gone. What's up? Oh, really, you guys into a show? Huh? Everybody? Yeah, are you? Are you saying we're the star of the show? Yes, you are both the star of the show. That's right, M don't make fun of me. It's been a long day, but a lot of dare you how day? It will a lot happens when you guys are gone. This whole stuff, this whole thing with Matt Gates, went down. So but there's still stuff happening there. So we'll talk about Matt Gates, Congressman. He was caught up in an undergage sex trafficking scandal. Just want to make a note that he is a Republican. Yeah, I don't know, very weird. And then we're going to talk to you political analyst and president founder of Party politics us, a Tiba, Maddie on. He's going to be joining the show to talk about why Democrats need to push for filibuster reform. Radio. It's news to us. Yeah, follow us on twitter if you want. It's news to us. We are there. Yeah, so, yeah, you guys going on vacation California. You're back. You're alive. What do you think of California? How do you mean? We're alive. Of course we're alive. What does that mean? Yeah, well, we were. We were here last week. It you're dead. Yeah, you weren't here last week. Anything can happen on a road trip. Yeah, that's true. Thanks for putting that negativity out there, though. Well, get back. So it's fine. What was the question? It was good. It was a good trip. Yeah, okay, good. Well, you're here, you're back, and well, we welcome back. I thought, you know, before and before we get into like this Matt Gates thing, why don't we talk about like just some stupid bs stories? I thought maybe we mix it up a little bit. It's nothing really happened in our social media. No, that's fine, you got your vacation. It's all good. Christ and drop the ball to me. Yeah, Gosh, Chris, did you guys watch Godzilla versus Kong? No, well, it was a Jew. Yeah, yeah, it's on HBO but also in theaters, and it like made sixty million dollars or something really serious, like the only movie out, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, but people are going back to the movie theater. Sixty and I think it's done over a hundred million worldwide. Wow, a little return to normalcy a little bit. there. Was it? Was it good? Was it a good movie? I fell asleep right when they started to teach Kong sign language. So the beginning. Yeah, I was like, I got do we want Kong to be communicating vs sign language? That's kind of cheesy. How do you guys feel about going to the movie theaters? Still? Like right now, I still feel like that's a bit iffy. Well, since I'm fully vaccinated, ha ha ha. Yeah, I mean I got my vaccine. I don't know if these use strains really get out of hand. If I wear a mask, I'd still feel fine about it. Yeah, I mean, I guess in a couple weeks, once I'm done being fully vaccinated all, I would feel as iffy. I mean check across the country. Yeah, yeah, but we didn't or sane where, but we didn't like go anywhere, like we went to a house with a pool and we stayed there, like we didn't like go out and do anything. Yeah, where we were, we stayed in hotels, you were on a plane. Yeah, yeah, I did bail on the last half of the road trip and I can't. I can't go another sixteen hours in the car. Yeah, way, yeah, yeah, I'm actually really excited to go back to the movie theater eventually here. That's one thing that I really missed. I used to love going to the movies. Yeah, it's great. You know these people who are like, I want to stream all the movies at home. Screw you. It's not the same. I get too distracted at home. Like I need to like, I need to like have the movie in front of me and pay for it and have no word to really go and be not be allowed to use your phone. Exactly. Actually, yeah, and I don't want the luxury of being able to pause it either, because then I'll just pause it and, you know, maybe not come back. Wrong with you. I can't sit at home and watch a movie without being distracted. I really can't. I don't, I we really can't do it. Occasionally I can if it's really good movie, but I I just try to watch that movie tenant at home and I had to I pause it, like five times and then I then I it was so damned confusing that one of the time I started to get I was little wire. You pausing it, like were you pooping? Like what? I don't know, just dog...

...has to go out. Somebody texts me. I don't know. Need what you're made put your phone on silent, put in the other room, like move along. And it's so critical. Did you watch movie? You never pulled your phone like pause to movie halfway through, to go. No, no, I'm call thembs. Yeah, I. What do you so when you watch a movie, Jason, you're like focus. No, I don't I don't buy that one bit. Laser Focus, though, you do never text anybody back. There's other people watching, so you got to keep it rolling. I mean if you yeah, if you stop paying attention, there's other people watching. So I guess I'm an ego maniac because whenever I leave the room I'm like, we're pausing it. I'm reading a wikipedia article right now. I got bored, but we're causing it. Yeah, yeah, sometimes in the middle a movie I have to bring up wikipedia articles because they they'll mention something. I'll be like, what are they talking about? Maybe you guys have adhd. I think I do. I think I do when it comes to watching movies at home, at least. I don't know that I have fullblown but watch a movie home, I'm have adult add I'm on medication. Yeah, so you want to make fun of him now, Jason, or you'll yeah, you'll get canceled a medical disease. Cancel Jason, but it doesn't affect you when you're in the movie theater. Chris, I don't know now. Yeah, I don't know if that. I feel like there was more eddies point than mine. Like I see where he's coming from, but, like now I'm very capable of like focusing in on a movie. But it's like having the option, you know, like it's kind of the way you know, it's yeah, like try not to think of the Color Green. Well, the what's the first thing you do? You think of the Color Green. It's like when you have the option to get distracted, then the mind wanders, but if you're locked in, you're locked in. Yeah, K, he's looking at her phone right now. Let's get the dirty deeds. Let's get enough of this conversation. Matt Gates. Matt Gates has he's in a lot of trouble for underage sex trafficking. It's what's being alleged which is really serious. And again he is public in the dirty deeds. Start now and look at this week's most important stories. Matt Gates. Who the hell is this guy, Matt Gates? Well, I didn't know that he was a lawyer. Did you guys know that Matt Gates is a lawyer? Now he is. I know that this guy's a lawyer and the way he's behaving when it comes to these allegations I've been levied against him, the way that he's acting in public, he must be the worst lawyer of all time because he's practically incriminating himself. He's acting guilty as fuck as the way he's acting. Yeah, yeah, so who is Matt Gates? Real quick? Yeah, he represents Florida's first congressional district, Republican and he was one of these huge, huge trump supporters and back in the two thousand and twenty race, we actually interviewed his opponent, the Democratic candidate, Phil Are you guys remember that? Yeah, former navy pilot, right. Yeah, a former a decorated former navy pilot, lost to some privileged little fuck, which is just like so Florida. Here's what Phil Air had to say about Matt Gates. Man, this meg when he was on our show. By the way, man, this Mat Gates guy is such a night remember when he like he put on that gas mask to try to mock covid nineteen. What's with this guy? Yeah, I guess. You know. It is stupid, it is ridiculous and it is embarrassing, but it's more than that. It's dangerous. Dangerous. He said dangerous. I think I had a I sound like I had a cold in that clip. That was weird. Yeah, I'm quite I brought that up. I sounded mill was I dying? Does does Eddie always drop his register like to Awhole? Hold on the air little. Oh, no, no, you sound like Larry David. Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, if I lose my voice, I sound like Larry David. Apparently, so good. So we made a prank phone call. So Matt. Yeah, Matt Gates, big trump supporter. At one point his twitter bio even quoted Donald Trump. It said, quote, he's a machine, handsome and going places, says Real Donald Trump. That was his actual twitter bio. Matt Game. Yeah, we're just giving me a little bit of background on this guy is at one point,...

...so remember, one, black lives matter was going on and that was that was huge. In Two Thousand and twenty, Matt Gates One on twitter and he called black lives matter a Marxist movement and said that it was parading s KKK propaganda. Was that even mean? I don't know if he knows what he's talking about. Yeah, confused, classic, classic argument. Yeah, everybody, the Post Modern Republican. I know you are, but what am I? Yeah, exactly. Then in that clip where I sounded like I had the plague, we referenced Matt Gates Wearing a mask. Is during the when covid nineteen very first broke out. He put on a mask and then went on the floor with a gas mask on and mocked covid nineteen. He later did get covid nineteen himself, by the way. He did. Yeah, he didn't know he had it. Oh, yeah, it. Yeah. So you know, the guy, the guys, just has a just history of just being a complete douchebag. He also used a conspiracy subreddit on a reddit for for a legal advice at one point to make an argument. He was caught doing that. This just a few things that he did real quick before we get into these allegations against him. He also threatned, publicly threatened to Michael Cohen before he testified against trump. You guys remember that? This is a refresher of Matt Gates. This is all Matt Gates, Matt Geet's greatest hits and well, lastly, remember when everybody was saying that what was the whole Kangaroo Court thing going on? What was going on with that? Remember who was there? Was that when? Oh, that was doing the impeachment. Right, whatever you say, it's probably impeachment, impeachment one or two. And everybody was saying this is like a kangaroo court. Apparently Matt Gates has no idea what a kangaroo court means, because he was caught on camera comparing kangaroo courts to captain kangaroo. Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Here's that clip in case you missed that. What we see in this impeachment is a kangaroo court and chairman shift is acting like a malicious captain kangaroo. This guy's a lawyer, by the way. These special not agree. Lawyer. I gotta, I gotta hear that and see that again. I think what we see in this impeachment is a kangaroo court and chairman shift is acting like a malicious captain kangaroo. He just call him chairman shift, shifted, Chairman Shift, Herman, shifty shift, is it? Yeah, because they call him shifty shift. Yeah, so now, all right. So now here's what's going on with Matt Gates. So now you just have this guy's just popped up left and right for doing stupid, idiotic things, but now he sees in trouble for doing something really, really disgusting and very, very serious. Jason, what is happening with Matt Gates? Mag Gates is said to be facing Justice Department inquiry over allegedly having sex with an underage girl. And it's deeper than that, though. There's also some sex trafficking allegations. Yeah, allegedly. Maybe he took that underage girl across state lines as well. Yeah, thats what they're looking into, their investigating, and all this stems from an investigation into this real character, Joel Greenberg, who is one of Matt Gates Associates and friends, who has been indicted on so many different charges. And this Joel Greenberg is kind of like the center of this whole thing. Thirty six years old, he's from Florida, tax collector and he's looking at thirty three federal charges, including stalking and sex crimes, as well buying sportsmill memorabilia with taxpayer money. Just so many different things happening with this guy. So and gates and Greenberg friendly friends, of course, the best friends. Yeah, it's Greenberg at the White House. Yeah, they like party powder, like taking like selfies, like, yeah, they're well, that's that's how these two jokers came together. Here is like is A. is all through trump. It's all through trump, because Greenberg was a huge this trump supporter and he spoke at a trump rally in Florida. And then that's when gates and Greenberg became friends, back in two thousand and seventeen, according to reports in the New York Times, and they really hit it off. Oh yeah, like you like the sex traffic? Oh, me too. Oh, what are the odds? Traffick the sects? Yeah,...

...matter, Katie. We shouldn't be laughing at this now. This Joel Greenberg Guy's a real character to we could go on about him for hours, but we're talking about Matt Gates Yeah, but it all comes back to Joel Greenberg in the end. I think we'll get to that later, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, yeah, so, Matt Gates, you know, all these allegations were levied against him and then he went on the the publicity tour to try to defend his name when this first broke out. He went on Tucker Carlson tonight, as you guys see this. Oh Yeah, yes, yeah, little, wild, crazy interview. I always t vote the TUCK. Oh yeah, it's so bad. It even like bade me squirm in my seat a little bit, like I've I was like, Oh, I've almost made me feel bad for Tucker Carlson, but I don't, of course. Yeah, I came like this close to feeling bad for him because Matt Gates, Sucker, went on Tucker Carlson the show with through under the bus, not once but twice, and we have those clips right now. First, Matt Gates brings up past allegations against Tucker Carlson in the interview. And, by the way, Tucker Carlson was trying to have Matt Gates on to throw them softball questions and help them out and this little thing. And then, and then mad gates doesn't understand that Fox uses on his side and just completely throws Tucker under the bus, and I believe we are in an era of our politics now, Tucker, were people are smeared to try to take them out of the conversation. I'm not the only person on screen right now who's been falsely accused of a terrible sex act. You were accused of something that you did not do, and so you know what this feels like, you know the pain it can bring to your family and you know how it just puts people on defense when you're accused of something so solacious and awful. But it did not happen, it is not true, and the fact that it is the basis of this attempt to extort my family tells a lot. And if the FBI Department of Justice will release the tapes that they are in possession of, the American people will see what is really going on. They use referred to a mentally ill viewer who accused me of a sex crime twenty years ago, and it of course it was. It was not trying. Never met the person, but but I do agree with you that being accused falsely is one of the words of mentally ill viewer. I assume they were all mentally ill. Yeah, right, they're watching Fox News. And then then that gates tried to Robe Tucker into the actual sex trafficking scheme by mentioning that Tucker Carlson was at a dinner with him and his seventeen year old victim. Here's that clip, and I only know what I've read in The New York Times. I can say that actually you and I went to dinner about two years ago. Your wife was there and I brought a friend of mine, you'll remember her, and she was actually threatened by the FBI told that if she wouldn't cop to the fact that somehow I was involved in some pay for play scheme that she could face trouble. And so I do believe that there are people at the Department of Justice who are trying to smear me. You know, providing for flights and hotel rooms for people that you're dating who are of legal age is not a crime, and I'm just troubled that the lack of any sort of legitimate a investigation into me would then permute would then convert into this extortion attempt. Hey, I don't remember the woman you're speaking of it. Where the context at all, honestly, but I he's like Shit. Also was really stupid in that clip is Matt Gates admits to having a sexual relationship with that woman. And in his defense, so he already like that's been confirmed by him. Right. But so was the woman he's referring to? Was it actually the girl who was underage, or was it a different persct like he's talking, who knows? Who knows man either were? We really don't know. He's saying that the FBI is trying to like extore another woman in some way. Yeah, get information right, right. It was just so confusing. I think that's the point. Yeah, that like we don't point. They just throw shit at the wall and see what sticks. Like he's trying to do what trump does and like distract and muddy the waters. You know, that's what he's trying to do. He's just failing at it. He sucks at it. Yeah, he's not. He's not very good at being trump junior, not at all. So so we pretty much went over everything that we miss anything. I know that Katie put together like a timeline of everything. Yeah, I mean he's like trying to say that it's linked to like an alleged extortion plot that's tied to an Iranian hostage named Bob Levinson, a retired FBI agent from Florida...

...that went missing, and I ran in two thousand and seven, and he's saying that they're like extorting his family or something, freaking Rogers. So it's totally not, nothing to do with what, absolutely nothing to do with it all. He's just thrown shit at the wall. And then he said like yeah, they're trying to get twenty five million dollars out of my dad and that's what this is really all about. Oh, my dad's also an FBI and formant. Did you know that too? Yeah, Oliver North said she was eighteen. If you can't trust all of her north, what's America come to? Yeah, so, but on April first, the New York Times reported that they actually know that Greenberg and gates used apps like apple pay and cash APP to pay for sex with women. They were cruited on the morons, like really, how dumb are these two? The and they sometimes took ecstasy before having sex with them, a source told The New York Times. Well, that's just smart. Yeah, that's the only smart thing about this. And then there was also the fact that a source alleged that gates was showing nude photos in the videos of women he had had sex with to his colleagues in the House of Representatives while on the House floor. AOC look at this piece of ass. But yeah, I said something into Washington host. That said, he was the only person in the Florida legislature to oppose a bill that would make it a legal to post photos or videos of a woman or anybody who's been and sexting you online, saying like hey, once, once you have it on your phone, it's yours, you should be able to do what you want with it. Yep, that's true. And also he was the only vote opposing a sex trafficking law. That passed as well. Also, truie. Now looking good for Matt Gates at all. So now, while all this is going on, Matt Gates just recently sent out an email to his supporters. As the latest happening with this right now, he said that this is a smear campaign and he's fighting to expose the truth, and then he asks for monetary donations. He's exposing himself to underage women girls. That's what he's doing. Allegedly and then allegically. He also went on twitter, Matt Gates did, to claim that he is a victim. Actually, he's a victim in this. He's the victim of canceled culture and the deep state. The Deep State is after Matt Gates, and people on the Internet did not they they gave him so much crap for claiming that he's a victim of the deep state. One person tweeted, you're not wanted by the deep state, more like the FBI. Another person responded to Matt Gates saying Dude thinks he's some kind of martyr for paying for sex, and another person said Matt Gates is blaming the investigation against him on canceled culture in the deep state. Perhaps you should be blaming it on sex trafficking of a minor across state lines. HMM. Well, who who? So now looks like Joel Greenberger, the guy that we mentioned earlier, is going to be the one that brings Matt Gates Down Because, as we mentioned, he has like thirty different charges, something crazy going like. The guy is thirty three. Yeah, he's in a lot of shit. What I'm trying to say? So there's no reports saying actually his lawyer came out and apparently they're putting together a plea deal with federal prosecutors, and this means that Joel Greenberg is most likely flipping on Matt Gates. Yeah, the Attorney said in court that he plans to plead guilty and one of the lawyers actually suggested that that might be bad news for gates. Here is Joel Greenberg's attorney right here talking about it. Does Matt Gates have anything to worry about? Does Matt Gates? That is such a brains what happen? Think? Does he have anything to worry about? And you're asking me to get into the mind of Matt gets. Right and well, from your mind, from my mind, your fire, based on what my client does. Okay, see, I thought if I kept on talking, talking, that I would avoid these a suit. And...

...not to say I'm sure Matt Gates is not feeling very comfortable today. By the way, what kind of a lawyer is this? This guy does not seem like he's like. I feel bad for kind. He looks like the dude and he like yeah, I do the bad I you know, I wouldn't be and not going to say that. Never mind. I don't want to make any false allegations, but there you go. That's what's happening with that. Matt Gates is worldly screwed and I hope that if he goes down, our buddy phil air gets another shot at that race, although, knowing Florida, those put another another Matt Gates in. Right, will put Gold Greenberg in? Yeah, right, okay. Well, we'll take quick break, will come back and we'll get our guests on. TEBA Maddie on, a author political analysis and president founder of party politics us, is gonna be joining us next talk about the filibuster and why it should be reformed by the demon's while they have the opportunity to do it. And what is the Filibuster to will have me answered those questions. We'll get get basic with him. I think we should write maybe some people to know what the filibuster even is. Wellsten our past episodes. They would we do it? Yeah, we haven't had a whole episode on that. We'll right back. It's news to us. Okay, it's news to us. We're back here live on I dobe radio. Thanks for hanging out with US and listening to the podcast as well. If you're doing it, that way. Our guest on this week's episode is a Teba Maddie on. He's an author, political analyst and the president founder of party politics us, featured in the hill, previously Washington Post many others, and he's joining us to talk about why Democrats should push for filibuster reform. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much for having me. This is a really important topic and there's, you know, a lot to discuss when it comes to it, and we do planted to dive into that, of course. But one thing that kind of struck me real quick, before we do that, about you, is that you are actually a former Republican. That's correct, right, it's very true. I was a register Republican from the point time that I was eighteen years old until the former president was elected. Wow, and so what made you want to switch party? The former president was elected, so dood it was that that recent when trump came into office, that's when you decided that maybe this party isn't for me. Yeah, I just joined the party initially because I feel, and I still do, that we need representation on both rights and I think we need voices and we need to build relationships. That's the way that I've built my own career. But you know, sometimes the writing is on the wall and, as my Angelo said, when a person shows you who they are, who they are, believe them. Well, I kept thinking that the former president was going to pivot at some point. I remember writing something to put a guardian. They were asking when did I know? That was the tipping point and it was the fact that the guy never pivoted. In fact, he dug in, went further with racist and sexist and xenophobia, you know, the whole pieces, with the border wall, the way they treated native Americans. It just kept going. So there was no way that I could continue to be in my right mind and stay part of that political party. And we see now the riffs that are going on with it, and it's all byproduct of him. Not that it wasn't already happening, but it just exposed itself. Yeah, I think that that was already happening and it was sort of like an unspoken thing, sort of happening behind the scenes a little bit, and trump was just just he put it all out there like with no shame at all. So I mean, looking back, I mean I hate to harp on this, but like. Looking back, do you see any other signs within the Republican Party, maybe when you were a supporter, that maybe you ignored and turned to Blin blind eye to? I never turn a blind eye, but they mean there were things that are going on when we saw the tea party coming to come into to DC and but you know, we could go all the way back to new gangers. We go better by probably a little bit furtherest, to that where the Republican Party is basically took a position where we're not going to do anything with Democrats. And you know, I live in a city where their majority Democrat and we have a city council. We don't have one Republican on the city council. I don't think that's necessarily healthy. I think having too much of one thing is not necessarily a good thing. But when we don't, when we have a position where people are actually listening because their hearts are so closed to it, and we have some problems. I think that's where we see...

...what's going on right now around the country and it's filtered down to the masses and that's the that's the bigger issue. To think this country is space with. Yeah, we could talk about that, I think, in depth, but we wanted to discuss the filibuster with you this time. I think we could have you back to do a whole show on that. But so filibuster. We actually did an entire episode on it last time. We I think last week or the week before, and we'll just in case anybody's joining us that doesn't know what the Filibuster is, because, you know, it's something that maybe wasn't taught and civics class as it should have been. How would you explain the Filibuster to somebody who doesn't know? It's basically no different than it's the origin of its word and the meeting which start off actually a privateer or pirates stealing booty and treasure, you know. And the way that I look at the Filibuster, it's one parties or somebody within the parties way of trying to hijack a political issue. I like to look at their definition of politics is politics is keeping an issue going long enough until it becomes irrelevant. And someone tries a filibuster piece of legislation, they often are doing so to try hijacking and steal it and then stop it from passing and they want to talk about the reasons why I shouldn't, and they just go goes on and on and on and on. But it's just overall, it's it's it's like trying to steal something in the night. And as an African American, you know you can go back to reconstruction period after reconstruction, you can see how filibusters were used to try to promote, I. Promote so legislation and keep legislation that was pro racist, for lack of a better word. And the in terms of where we are today, this nation is much better for his diversity and it's much stronger when we embrace our diverse population, but also diverse ideas, and that means both Republican and Democrat or independent, and I think that we've basically we've outgrown the need for the Filibuster, though there are some people who still want to keep it alive because it helps them to continue and push it there agendas that they say is pro American but in my opinion, is very UNAMERICAN. So are you advocating for the abolition, then, of the Filibuster as it now exists, or are you open to some more halfmeasures type reforms that would rain in the filibuster. I'M A I'm poor getting rid of a period. I think also, when you look at the way that the Senate is made up, even with the way that we vote on issues. You know, you people normally like to use a term the nuclear option. They're just these different terms that we use. We live in a democratic society. Thiss go it democratic vote, so that's you know, I think that when piece of legislation comes before the House of the Senate, there is a committee process and the committee process is when issues should come up about why a piece of legislation should or should not pass. The committee makes is risk recommendations. It comes to the floor, let's just have up and down vote on it. We can have the debate and then have up and down vote and whatever is a majority, then that's the way that we should go. We should keep going on with all these other things that hinder the whole democratic process and the ability to be able to get laws passed. Yeah, it's the especially with Mitch McConnell. To the guys just he stopped so much legislation in the filibuster. It's just another means for him to do that. And he recently came out and said quote. Nobody in this chamber can even begin to imagine what a complete scorged earth sent it would look like. He was talking about it if filibuster reform is passed. What do you make of this threat from Senate Minority Leader, Mitch Mcconnell? I'm trying to figure out ways my little part of the world to do the things that I can and the things that I did and worked on in two thousand and twenty with other people was getting people to vote and the recognition at elections have consequences, and that's the message that I would send it, Mitch McConnell. Elections have consequences. Now, where we see going on around this country are states like Georgia that are passing voter suppression blaws to keep people from them vote because they lost an election. And what I see Mitch McConnell and the Republicans doing is exactly what...

I was taught and learned the Republicans do, and that's project and they're projecting as if, and this is what fresh rates me right now. The Democrats keep appearing to be weak. Well, you had we gave you the majority. It's a slim majority and that's in it and in the house. What are you going to do with it? I don't really care what Mitch mcconmas is about scorched earth, because if they were in a if the roles were reversed, we should all know by now with the Republicans would do so. I think they're rather than pay attention to what they're talking about in terms of you can't get rid of a filibustered it's just there. They're governing from or trying to govern and trying to use their minority and be and use a fearful tactics and I would love to see and if they don't do it, I'll just try to do it my own way. That I think we have to come from positions of hope and I think that this country coming out we're trying to get from upint of a pandemic. We sell a Republicans now, one Republican voter for a stimulus package bill as supposed to help all Americans, that we're Democrats have the power right now. They have the house to sit in the presidency. They haven't had that since two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, and I'm personally waiting to see what they got to do with it. So I could care less what Miss mcconmas is. Yeah, and this the scordsters thing to is seems to me like to be an empty threat too, because he's pretty much threatening. He's saying that will will make it so the Senate is Uselessen doesn't do anything, but we saw under his lead that's exactly what was happening anyways. So he's like pretty much threatening what he's already been doing or done in the past, and it's time that we actually start to pass some legislation in this country that it helps people and doesn't only serve the the the elite and the rich and special interest groups. It's just gotten so crazy and out of hand how it's just so blatant in front of our faces if you're paying attention we put. The Republican Party is not looking out for the average American at all and it blows my mind that people still vote for anybody in that party, because we'll be much better off if we were trying to look at policies that actually help people. It's true that, but there with the sad part is that they're not even working to benefit the very people that they need to vote for them, for them you know, you look at Georgia. In Georgia was a huge win for Democrats. President won by twelvezero votes, Senator Warnock, and send it as off one bigger margins. But a lot of the people who vote it and the presidential election and Republicans, I didn't come back out vote and January during that special election. So I think where Democrats need to be doing is focus on getting legislation pass, get rid of you know, stop worrying about what the Republicans going to do, because that's what will excite the base. That is what we'll give people hope. That will get people out to vote in two thousand and twenty two midterms. You know, we had a campaign. It was called two thousand and twenty. I won't say this here because I don't know if you want to go ahead. It's fine, I saw what you're talking about. You can say we had a campaigns called two thousand and twenty fucking matters and we're coming back with midsurs fucking matters, and because it really does. But the whole idea is not just a shock people, but it's to really like inspire people and recognize it. Elections have consequences. So if we have the house in the Senate, people are going to continue to say, and I think the Democrats are trying to operate in this idea where with the president always loses, the President's party loses seats in the mid term elections. That doesn't necessarily have to be the case. The Democrats can win and can and can get a larger majority. That they've got to do the work to excite the base and they've got to get people, you know, whether or not as progressives, who young people, who want to see some relief with student loans, whether or not is people who want to see well, the taxing the wealthy a bit more, because we've seen the largest transfer of wealth from the room, from the wealthy, I mean from the poor, to the wealthy or the middle class of wealthy, during this pandemic and we've got to figure out some ways to really write that ship and people, Republicans and Democrats, need money and there's a middle class and and and for people who are both republicated Democrats, I think that people got to be voted with their pockets. In Two thousand and twenty two, even like this year, they're special. There's a election that are gone on in Virginia and New Jersey. This is all going to help to show us. Where Democrats do right now is going to help show us what's going to happen in two thousand and twenty two, and I really think Democrats would be missing a great opportunity of the do what I do, what we would see the Republicans do. If the Republicans were in a slim majority right now, do you think they would get get rid of the nuclear option? are or the whole idea of having to or go to the nuclear option, the whole idea that you have to have sixty votes to do any major legislation? I don't think they would. I think that Miss McConnell would do whatever he needed to do to get his legislation pass and I think that that's what Shuman needs to do and I think in the...

...house they're trying to do and hold a line and the president should stop trying to work across the party lines. I know that's the tagline that we he supposed to say from a presidential standpoint, but right now people it's not really not to a straight though. They're not the all's to work across party lines and that does need to stop. So we extended the or should say Democrats, but I'm going to say we whatever, extended the you know, the olive branch and said Hey, this in the Obama years, will try to work with you. But you know that didn't work out. So why keep giving them that courtesy? So screw them. It's what I say. And I think that political concerns are really what the hold up is right now because, as you were saying a second ago, at this point Democrats control all the lovers. So if the party really wants to get this stunt, it's in a position to do that, as you know, assuming that it can get the rank and file, the fallen behind. But you know they're to have the opportunity here. What's what? You know what what's keeping this hypothetical and has kept the Sener from moving forward already? And I think also, I mean there's some things that really take note. You got people like Joe Mansion and Susan Collins and a few others, Christen Cinema, who are in states where they have some Republicans that they have to answer to. So that gives Democrats that even some majority. But if you have these up and down votes, people tend to have a short term memory, but I think these are things that the Democrats should be taking notes and going back to and two thousand and twenty two and making sure that and, and I'm not even going to put this all on Democrats, US as voters need to be remembering who is with us in the times of need, who was against us and the time and need, and we've got to keep bringing that up. And and my big message, I think now, at least, that call to action that I have for myself, is stop worrying about what the elected officials do. Let's focus on what we can do as citizens. Yes, that's right. And you know, I think this is also a lot of propaganda to work against too, because, even you mentioned earlier, everybody needs money and the the middle classes dwindling. Yet there's a huge percentage of this population that is worried about their guns being taken away or then being forced to become transgender like this. is so much crazy crap out there. I and that really is the biggest battle, is cutting through and and and kind kind of waiting through all the BS, and I think a lot of that has to the battle there is fought as the individual, as you said, maybe you open up these conversations with your family, you know, in a respectful way, and start there, or your maybe close friends, where you know you're not going to damage relationship. But I don't know, like any any advice from you. Is just a couple of my ideas. Yeah, I think we got to stop being afraid to have a conversation and you know, when the people who don't agree with you start yelling, you don't have to yell back. I find it when people start yelling and they get start talking over you, is usually because they're insecure and that's where you know. But we've got to find I don't know whether what the language is yet. We've got to find some ways that are going to reunite us. But I think that by leading, and you know, when I look back at history, I look in nineteen eighty one thousand nine hundred and eighty one, Ronald Reagan came in office. You know, why did the country support him though there were like pieces of legislation there went against the major a large part portion of Americans a lot of it was he. It was it was slow, it was steady, he stayed on message and he provided a vision for where he wanted to take the country. That's what I think we really need to have today, a message, and I think that message now has to be of hope, because people are tired of living in fear. We've been living that way for the last quite fourteen months or thirteen, fourteen months, under a pandemic. We've seen people lose jobs, their people who are middle class, who have been trying to support their families, and so it's been tight because their family members have lost jobs. They've got kids who are in college who can't go and live on campus or are living in a hybrid type of campus. Saying there, all this thing, stuff has impacted us. The question is how we want to touch the people's hearts and win them over and not necessary. You don't have to necessary when them over as a Kumbaya moment, but just you know what's what's with the picture, what's in the best interest for us as a country, as Americans, and I mentioned every the beginning that our strength is really our diversity. Our weakness is still our inability to embrace our diversity, because the more that we do that, the more that we are...

...can be threatened by outside forces and that, I think, that's where we really keep saying. I don't think I hear enough people talking about how the rushes and China are exploiting our our our national biggest national national security threat, which is racism, sexism, is in a phobia. Yeah, I I can't agree with you more there. Well, we appreciate you coming on the show. And before we let you go, though, I did notice that you're the associate producer on an upcoming Nicol and OJ film. It's called the cool and Oldja. What can you tell us about this project real quick, before I know that we're almost out of time with you. I'm sure you have things to do. I can tell you that that film was supposed to have been done about a year ago. There are some other things that got caught in some politics in Hollywood. So I okay, size step that one. Yeah, that's hard to navigate that way the Hollywood, you know. But if but your listeners out there, they if they google Nicole and OJ film, they'll find they they'll see, or you can see what I'm talking about in tribes of the politics, and that's why I think that I always tell people there's politics and everything. There's even politics and stuff in Hollywood. Can I can ask you about the project. Was a documentary or was it more of well, okay, it's it's actually a what do you call it? I'm trying to think of it's is done in a in a I don't want to say satirical way is done in it, but it's there. But the way that it is also done, it is all grounded and based in fact and there's some things that happen. There was a first OJ trial. There was a second trial that a lot of people don't might not know about, where OJ's attorney's tried to subpoena the phone records of the night that Nicole called her parents, but it was locked up in the first trial and that this movie is about that. A lot of oh now that story. Yeah, I didn't know that. It would have shown it would have shown the time stamp of when the call was made to show they coordinates with the time when Oja was on his way to the airport. It's really interest and in fact, when the director or first brought into my attention, I was like really, and I did my own research and it it's ray true. So you can look up film records from the OJ Simpson trial that were locked up and it was all part of another deal, again politics. It was all part of another deal to suppress it. Other evidence and the first trial. Wow, yeah, he got the really good lawyers, that's for sure. Yeah, yeah, you can buy you a lot of things, right, that's true. That's true. Well, a Tiva, bad you on. Thanks so much for joining us. Working People find you and everything you do before we to play. Well, I have a book out and they want to find out some other things about me, they can just use my name. A Tiba, a Ti be as a boy A and Matt June. M Ady, you N I've mis pronounced the whole time. I'm so sorry. No, it's okay. It's okay, because all the time. But it's about it. It's a Tiva, Matt Jancom actually even asked your publicist how to pronounce and yeah, everybody, that's don't worried about it. All right, will sorry again about that, but we appreciate you being here and you have a great evening and you take care. Thanks for having me. Thank you. Talk over people. That's the first thing. Everybody matters. Let's talk over people. Just talk over, talk over any get into it. Yeah, just that's our right. Over and see. Yeah, it's in fact, we should be inter you know, you're rejecting with the guests more often. Just great guests, though I'm not saying the guests did anything bad, great conversation, but we should it. Just jump in there. We're too polite, but think it's a great job too. Excellent interview. Yeah, we're too polite. We're well, you know, I think that we're maybe overcome pensating, but which trying to you know, two guess on it's used us or maybe of a dire you know, lectures. Well, then the old EJC show, I would go. I would I would say the bloodhound gang is right up there. Intellectually, I don't know what you're talking about. There enough. Different topic. Yeah, different subject matter, yeah, yeah, but you know whatever, we covered a lot of ground. There's a lot to get to. Is Always there's a couple that it hid twentyzero in Maine. If you guys want to go to try to find that, would you guys go into treasure hunt? Yes, to find Twentyzero just for fun? Oh, you wouldn't. Not if it involved like seventeen hours of driving, but twenty, I mean like any further. Twentyzero enough to go on a treasure hunt and a risk your life in Maine where the big foot? Risk Your Life. Big Foot. Now I think they have lobster. Dude, I go looking for big foot. I think that would be fun. That would be fun. But Twenty th thousand of old are from that Stephen King Book that ran over Stephen King. HMM. What's that...

...one movie? Strange Wilderness? I love that movie. I haven't seen that. I would, Chris. Chris, your Seth Green. No, Eddie, you have to watch strange wilderness. It's so funny. Oh, I know the one you're talking about. Yeah, that movie is Great. Off The track, you know it too too long of a story. But there was one time where I had Chris believing big foot was like real and coming after Nice. What? Oh, I don't know about that idea. I think during camping. It was during camping. Okay, we're free out a bunch of drugs, Chris. I smoked a bunch of drugs. Yeah, where is? All you did was smoked drugs and you believed in big foot. We believed in something. I don't know. I heard noises, that's and I thought I needed. Yeah, I made him think I was freaking out, like random. Yeah, anyway, you guys are funny. He believed in big foot for a literally like five minutes. We should all go to the rooks in smoke a bunch of drugs this summer. Speaking of Terris pooping anywhere he wants, that's the crimework. pooped, not on the toilet. Back to the twenty thous thing, though, like isn't I was thinking that it's a little bit sociopathic for this couple to high twenty thousand dollars and just say a go try to find it. Like sociopathic. Yeah, why won't they take that money and donated to charity or like, instead of like fun and that I know, but like, we have twentyzero. He's for more than welcome to take a treasure map and go. That's what's Miss. That's the problem with this country. Everybody is expecting a hand out. I am a shovel and going and digging mapaks. Yeah, fair, Nice people actually handing out maps. You have to pay twenty to do the treasure hunt and they give you a deck of cards and has cludes or something like that. Huh Hmm, Huh. Well, you guys know about that. Like large treasure like that million dollar plus treasure. That something fin forced Finn or something. Words. Yeah, yeah, you met to go. Yeah, somebody, somebody, yeah, found that like last year. Yeah, the Dick, the jerk, won't say where it was. West, you won't tell you. Everybody was wondering where that was. Yeah, just that it was in Wyoming somewhere. No, fuck, that's all he'll say. It was in a trash bag off the freeway. All right, that's all the time we have for this week. We'll see you next time, Bubbay. Appreciate it very much. Tim Apple.

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