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Guest: Atiba Madyun, #GaetzGate

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Political analyst and president and founder of Party Politics US, Atiba Madyun, talks about why Democrats must push to get rid of the filibuster. 

And, the latest with Matt Gaetz.

It is the week of April twelfth, what'sgoing on, I were back after a little week off Jason and Katy were onvacation, but they're here now so wecided to take the whole week offbecause you guys are goine. What's up? Oh really, you guys Indo a show Huheverybody CANU. Are you saying ere the star of the show? Yes, you are both thestar of the show. That's right! Don't make fun of me. It's been a long day, but a lot of Daria O day EA well lothappens when you guys are gone this whole stuff. This whole thing with MattGates went down so but there's still stuffhappening there. So we'll talk about Matt Gates, Congressman. He was caughtup in an undergage sex trafficking. Scandal just want to make a note thathe is a Republican d yeah. I don't know very weird andthen we're going to talk. U To a political analyst and president founderof Party politics, US a Tiba Madiean he's going to be joining the show totalk about why Democrats need to push for Filli buster reform, it's it is to US yeah. Follow us ontwitter: If you want news to us, we are there yeah, so yeah you guys going onvacation, California, you're back you're alive. What do you think of California whot? Do you mean we'realive, of course, for alive? What does that mean? Yeah? Well, we er Yo werehere last week ID AV dead, yeah. You weren't here last week anything coingto happen on a road trip. That's true! Thanks for putting that negativity outthere, though. Well your back! So it's fine! What was the question? It was good. It was a good trip, yeah, okay, good well you're, here,you're back and well. We've welcome back. I thought you know moin before weget into like this mad gates thing. Why don't we talk about like just somestupid BS stories? I thought maybe we'd mix it up a little bit since nothing really happened in oursocial media. No, that's fine! You got you'R onvacation. It's all good! CR drop the ball den me Yeah Gosh Chris Dods. Youguys watch Godzilla versus Kong. No! Well! It wasn' You yeah e H, it's onHBL, but also in theaters and like made sixty million dollars or somethingreally Heri it like the only movie out. Isn't it yeah yeah, but people are going back tothe movie theater sixty and I think it's done over a hundred millionworldwide wowa little return to normalsy a little bit there was it? Wasit good? Was it a good movie? I fell asleep right when they started to teachKong sign language. So the beginning yeah I was like Idon't know. We Want Kong to be communicating viassign language, that'skind of cheesy. How do you guys feel about going to themovie theater still like right now? I still feel like that's a bet iffy. Well, since IM fully vaccinatediu yeah, I mean I got my vactine. I don'tknow if thes you strains, really get out of hand. IfI wear a mask, I'd still feel fine about it. Yeah I mean I guess in acouple weeks, once I'm done being fully vaccinated. All I wouldnoziffy, I meanCrosic intry yeah yeah, but we didn't boranwhere, but we didn't like goanywhere like we went to a house with a pool and we stayed there like. Wedidn't like go out and do anything yeah e. We were, we stayed in hotels, you were on aplane, yeah yeah. I did bail on the last half of the road trip and I cant I can't go another. Sixteenhours in the car, yeah am Yo, but yeah, I'm actually real excited togo back to the movie theater. Eventually, here that's one thing thatI've really missed. I used to love going to the movies yeah. It's great. You know these people who are like. Iwant to stream all the movies at home. Screw you it's not the same. I get toodistracted at home. Likei need to Li. I need to like have the movie in front ofme and pay for it and have no word to really go and be n not be allowed touse your phone exactly yeah, and I I don't want the luxury of being able topausit either because then I'll just pause. It and you know, maybe not Wawrong with you. You can't sit at home and watch a movie without beingdistracted. I really can't I don't say we eally can't do it occasionally. Ican if it's really good movie, but I just tried to watch that movie tenantat home and I had to I paused it like five times and then I theni it was sodamn confusing that, but the time I started it again, I was like why ereyou popping an like. Were you pooping like what I don't know just dog has togo out.

Somebody text me, I don't know Wut YourS, put put your phone on silent. Put I in the other room like ve, along and socritical. Did you wano movie Ou, never pulled your phone like Pas to moviehalfway through to go. No, no, I'm callimbs yeah. What do you wa?So when you watch a movie Jason You're like focus? No, I don't. I don't buythat one bit. WASER FOCUS OUH! You do never text anybody back old, there'sother people watching, so you got to keep it rolling. I mean if you, if youstop paying attention, there's other people watching. So I guess I'm an egomania, because whenever I leave the room, I'm like we're pausing it. I'm reading a Wik Capedi article rightnow I got born buter, causing it yeah yeah. Sometimes in the middle of t emovie, I have to bring Wi Amedia articles because they'll mentionsomething I'll be like what are they talking about? Maybe you guys have adht.I think I do. I think I do when it comes to watching movies at home. Atleast I don't know that I have full blown but watchin movie home. I'm have adult, add I'm on medication yeah. So you want to make fun of himnow. Jason or yo you'll get canceled. Medical Disease Cancel Jason, but it doesn't affect you when you'rein the movie theater Chris, I don't know then yeah. I don't know that I feellike thate was more Eddy's point than mine, like I see where he's coming from,but like Nowi'm, very capable of likefocusing in on a movie, but it's like having the option. You know like it's kind of the way you know it's yeah like try not tothink of the Color Green. Well, what's the first thing you do you think of thecolor green, it's like when you have the option to get distracted and themind wanders Bot if you're walked in you're locked in Yeah Kas's, looking atour phone right now, let's get te dirty deed. Let's get enough of thisconversation that Gates matgates has he's in a lot of trouble for underagesex trafficking, ATS, what's being alleged, which is really serious andagain he is Republican. The dirty deets start now an inde look at this week's mostimportant stories, Matt Gates, who the Hell is this Guy Matt Gates? Well, Ididn't know that he was a lawyer. Did you guys know that Mat Gates is alawyer? Now he ISI know this guy is a lawyer andthe way he's behaving when it comes to these allegations have been leviedagainst him. The way that he's acting in public, he must be the worst layer of all time,because he's practically incriminating himself he's acting guilty as fuck isthe way he's acting yeah yeah. So who is matgates real, quick yeah, H Erepresents florda's first congressional district Republican, and he was one ofthese huge, huge trump supporters and back in the two thousand and twentyrace we actually interviewed his opponent, the the Democratic candidatePhil Air. You guys remember that yeah former navy pilot right yeah, aformer, a decorated former navy pilot lost to some privileged little fuck,which is s like so Florida. Here's what Phil Air had to say about Matt Gates,man, this meg, when he was on our show by the way man, this madgates guy, issuch Aa emember when he like e, put on that gas mask to try to mock covidnineteen. What's with this Guy Yeah, I just you know it is stupid, an it isridiculous and it is embarrassing, but it's more than that, it's dangerousdangerous. He said dangerous. I think I had a I soundd, like I had a cold inthat clip. That was weird Hi'm Qo that up ISO I wai dying, doesdoes Eddie always drop his register like to ofn the air ohoyosound like Larry David Yeahyes,yeah yeah. If I lose my voice, I sound like Larry David, apparently awom s, sogood thowe made a prank phone call, so Matto Yeah, Matt Gates, big trumpsupporter at one point. His twitter, bio, even quoted Donald Trump. It saidquote: He's a machine handsome and going places says Real Donald Trumpthat was his actual twitter, bio, macga, yeah Wer GIVG. A little bit backgroundon this guy is at one point...

...so remember when black lives matter wasgoing on, and that was that was huge in two thousand and twenty Matt Gates went on twitter and he called black lives matter a Marxistmovement and said that it was parroting. One thousand nine hundred htys KKKpropaganda was that even Meani don't know if he knows what he's talkingabout yeah, fes plastic plastic argument: Yeah Everybod, the Post,modern Republican. I know you are, but what am I yeah exactly then, in that clip where I sounded likeI had the plague we referenced Mad Gates wearing a mask is during that,when covid nineteen very first broke out, he put on a mask and then went onthe floor with a gas mask on and Mocke covid nineteen he later did get covidnineteen himself by the way O he did yeah. He didn't know he had it Ohrea ad,it yeah. So you know the guy. The guys just has a JUSTA history of just being a complete duchbag. He also used a conspiracy subredit on redit, for fora legal advice at one point to make an argument. He was caught doing that thisust a few things that he did real quick before we get into these allegationsagainst him. He also threat publicly threatened Michael Colen before hetestified against trump. You guys remember that Isis, refresherof Matt Gates, this is all mat gates, Mag Gates greatest hets and lastly, remember when everybody was saying that what was the whole kangaroo court thinggoing on what was going on with that remember? who was that was that when O, that was during the impeachmentright, what Ewas say is probably in peachbent impeachment one or two andeverybody was saying this is like a kangaroo court. Apparently mackates hasno idea what a kangaroo court means, because he was caught on camera, comparing kangaroo courts to CaptainKangaroo Ohyeah. I forgot about that. Here'sthat clip in case you misse that what we see in this timpeachment is akangaroo court and Charman shift is acting like a malicious captainkangaroo this guy's a lawyer by the way hesspecial, not a Grea lawer. I got TA. I gotto hear that and see that again. Ithink what we see in this impeachment is akangaroo court and chairman shift is acting like a malicious captainkangaroo. They just call him Chairman Shift Shied Cherman, Scheferman shiftyshift. Is it yeah because they call him shifty shift yeah? So now all right? So now here's what'sgoing on with Mac Gate. So now you us: have this guy's just popped up, leftand right for doing stupid, idiotic things, but now he sees in trouble fordoing something, really really disgusting and very, very serious Jason.What is happening with Mat Gates macgates? I is said to be facingJustice Department inquiry over allegedly having sex with an underagedgirl and it's deeper than that, though, there's also some sex traffickingallegations yeah, allegedly maybe he took that underaged girl across statelines as well yeah. What they're looking into they'reinvestigating and all this stems from an investigation into this realcharacter. Jolel Greenberg, who is one of Mat, Gates, associates and friendswho has been indicted on so many different charges, and this jol Greenberg is kind of likethe center of this whole thing. Thirty, six years old, he's from Florida, taxcollector and he's looking at thirty three federal charges, includingstocking and sex crimes as well, buying sports me Memorbilia with taxpayermoney. Just so many different things happeningwith this guy so and engates and Greenburg friendly friends. Of course,the best friends yeah it's Agreenburg at the White House yeah they had likeparty power like taking like Selphis like yeah theyre. Well, that's that's.How these two jokers came together here is like is, is all through trump, it'sall through trump, because Greenberg was a huge Beth trump supporter and hespoke at a trump rally in Florida and then that's when gates in Greenbergbecame friends back in two thousand and seventeen. According to reports in the New YorkTimes, andthey really hit it off. Oh yeah,like you like the sex traffic. Oh me too, what are the AL traffic the sex yeah?...

I Matter Katy, we shouldn't be laughingat thisno. This Jol Greenburg guys a real character to. We could go on abouthim for hours, but we're talking about mattgates yeah, but it all comes backto Jil Greenberg. In the end, I think we'll get to that later, though yeah yeah, so yeah, so mat gates. You knowall these elegations were levied against him, and then he went on thethe publicity to Er try to defend his name. When this first broke out, Yeuwent on Tucker Carlson tonight. Did you guys see this? Oh Yeah? Yes, yea? What a wild, crazyinterviewo! I always tvo the Tuck, Oh yeah, it's so bad! Even like made mescorm in my seat. A little bit like I was like Ohi almost made me feel badfor Tucker Carlson, but I don't of course, e close to feeling bad for himbecause Mat Gatoker, Wentger Carlson, the show ith threw H M under the busnot once but twice, and we have those clips right now. First Matt Gates brings up past elegationsagainst Tucker Carlson. In the interview and by the way, TuckerCarlson was trying to have mat gates on to throw him softball questions andhelp them out in this whole thing and then, and then mad gates doesn'tunderstand that Fox dos us on his side and just completely throws Tucker under the bus, and I believe we are in an era of ourpolitics now Tucker, where people are smeered to try to take them out of theconversation, I'm not the only person on screen right now, who's been falselyaccused of a terrible sex act. You were accused of something that you did notdo, and so you know what this feels like. You know the pain it can bring toyour family, and you know how it just puts people on defense when you'reaccused of something so solacious eand awful, but it did not happen. It is nottrue and the fact that it is the basis of this attempt to extort my familytell us a lot, and if the FBIN Department of Justice will release thetapes that they are in possession of the American people will see what isreally going on Theyyou. Just referred to a mentallyill viewer who accused me of a sex cron twenty years ago, and of course it was, it was not troalynever met the person, but but I do agree with you that theing accusefalsely is one of the word amentally ill viewer. I assumed they were all Mensalial, yeah,bat they're, watching Fox News, and then then bat gates tried to Robe Tuckerinto the actual sex trafficking scheme. By mentioning that Tucker Carlson wasat a dinner with him and his seventeen year old victim. Here's that clip- and I onlyknow what I've read in The New York Times. I can say that actually you andI went to dinner about two years ago. Your wife was there and I brought afriend of mine you'll, remember her and she was actually threatened by the FBI,told that if she wouldn't Coh to the fact that somehow I was involved insome pay for placescheme that she could face trouble. And so I do believe thatthere are people at the Department of Justice who are trying to smear me. Youknow providing for flights and hotel rooms for people that Youre dating whoare of legal age is not a crime, and I'm just troubled that the lack of anysort of legitimate investigation into me would then permute would thenconvert into this extortion. Attempt, I don't remember the woman you'respeaking ofot or the context at all honestly, but I he's like Shit. Also what's really stupid in that clipis mat gates admits to having a sexual relationship with that woman in hisdefense. So he already like that's, been confirmed by him right, but the so was the woman he's referring to wasthat actually the girl who was under age or was it a different personlike?He was talking. Who knows who knows how many there were? We really don't know US saing that thefbis trying to likeextore another woman in some way, yeah get information right right. It wasjust so confusing. I think that's the point yeah that, like we don't point,they just throw shit at the wall and see what sticks like he's trying to dowhat trump does and like tistract and muddy the waters. You know. That's whathe's trying to do I's just failing at it? He sucks at it. Yeah he's he's notvery good at being trump junor, not at all. So I so we pretty much went overeverything. Did we miss anything? I know that Katy put together liketimeline of everything yeah, I mean he's like trying to saythat it's linked to like an allegedextortion plot, that's tied to an...

Iranian hostage named Bob Levinsin, aretired FBI agent from a Florida that went missing and Iran in two thousandand seven and he's saying that they're like extorting his family orsomething fricking around Jur Gi, toally, notnothing to do with what absolutely nothing to do with it all he's justthrowing shit at the wall and then he said, like yeah they're, trying to gettwenty five million dollars out of my dad and that's what this is really allabout. Oh my dad's, also an FBI informant. Did you know that too yeahover north, since she was eighteen, if you can't trust all over north? What'sAmerica come to yeah so, but on April first, the New YorkTimes reported that they actually know that Greenburg and gates used apts, likeapple pay and cash AP to pay for sex with women. They recruited on atmos,like really how dumb are these two theyand? They sometimes took ecstasybefore having sex with them a source, told The New York Times. Well, THAT'S JUST SMART YEAH! That'sthe only smart thing about this, and then there was also the fact that asorce ledged, Tha Gates was showing nude photos and the videos of women hehad had sex with to his colleagues in the House of Representatives. While onthe House floor, AC l look at this piece of Ass Lik yeah. I said somethingInthe Washinggon Post. That said, he was the only Persson in the Floridalegislature to oppose a bill that would make it illegal topost photos or videos of a woman or anybody who's been sexing. You onlinesaying like hey once once you have it on your phone. It's yours! You shouldbe able to do what you want with it. Yep, that's true, and also he was theonly vote opposing a sex trafficking law that passed as well. Also true, now looking good for MatGates at all. So now, while all this is going on, maccates just recently sentout an email to his supporters. His is the latest happening with this rightnow. He said that this is a smer campaign and he's fighting to exposethe truth, and then he asks for monetary donations he's exposing himself to underage wo,girls, that's what he's doing allegedly and then I'm allegically he also wenton twitter. Matgates did to claim that he is a victim actually he's a victimin this he's the victim of canceled culture and the deep state. The DeepState is after Matt Gates and people on the Internet did not. They gave him so much crap for claimingthat he's a victim of the deep state one person tweeted you're, not wantedby the deep state more like the FBI. Another person responded to Matgate,saying dude, think he some kind of martyr for paying for sex and another person said Matt Gates isblaming the investigation against him on cancel culture in the deep state.Perhaps you should be Blaing it on sex trafficking of a minor across tatelines. Wea Ho so now looks like Jol Greenberg. Theguy that we mentioned earlier is going to be the one that brings Matt GatesDown Because, as we mentioned, he has like thirty different charges.Something crazy going like the guy is three thirty three yeah he'sin a lot of shit. That's what I'm trying to say so! There's no report saying actually hislawyer came out and apparently they're putting together at plea, deal withfederal prosecutors, and this means that Jol Greenberg is most likelyflipping on Mat Gates, yeah. The attorneys said in court thathe plans the plea guilty and one of the lawyers actually suggested that thatmight be bad news for gates. Here is Jol Greenberg's attorney right here.Talking about him, bcause man cads have anything to worryabout ECAUSE man gates. That is such a Brat you're asking me to get into the mindof the membersright, Il from your mind for my mibased onwhat my clien s see. I thought if I kept that talkingsoioavoid these questionand, not to...

Sayi'm sure matgates is not feelingvery comfortable by the way. What kind of a lawyer isthis? This guy does not seem like he's like, I feel bad for R KINDOF. Helooks like the dude and he like Yeah Du to babs. You know I wouldn't be SI'm, not Goin,to say that never mind it want to make any false allegations, but there you go.That's what's happening with that. Matgates is worlly screwed and I hopethat if he goes down our buddy phil air getsanother shot at that race. Although nowing Florida owas put another anotherMac gates in right, but put Joel Greenbur Aan a right, okay, well, well, thinke, Quick Brakwill come back and we'll get our guest on Tabub Madion, a author politicalanalysis and president founder of party politics. T E US is going to be joiningus next to talk about the FHILLBUSTER and why it should be reformed by thedemons while they have the opportunity to do it, and what is the fhillbuster to wellhave a Manch of those questions. We'll go e basic with them. I think we shouldright. Maybe some people don't know what the fillbuster even is well. Ifthey listen to our past episodes, they would we do it yeah we divn't have awhole episode on thit we're right back. It's news to us. Okay, it's news to us, or back here,live on IDB radio, thanks for hanging out with us and listening to thepodcast as well. If you're doing it that way, our guest on this week'sepisode is Tiba. Madion he's an author political analyst and the Presidentfounder of party politics, US featured in the hill, previously washing ton,post many others and he's joining us to talk about. Why Democrats should pushfor fillibuster reform. Thank you so muce for joining us. Thank you sommicefor having me. This is a really important topic and there's you know alot to discuss when it comes to it, and we do plan to dive into that of course,but one thing that kind of struck me real, quick before Weu. Do that aboutyou is that you are actually a former Republican.That's correct right is very true. I was a register Republican from thepoint time that I was eighteen years old until the former president waselected well, and so what made you want to switch party? The former president waselected sodoit. It was that that recent when trump came into office, that'swhen you decided that maybe this party isn't for me. You know ijust joined theparty initially, because I feel- and I still do, that we need representationon both sides and I think we need voices and we need to buildrelationships. That's the way that I've built my own career, but you know H.Sometimes the writing is on the wall and, as my Angelo said, when a personshows youwh ith thear PLO, they are believe them. You know I kept thinkingthat the former president was going to piot at some point. I remember writingsomething put a guardian. They were asking. When did. I know that wwas thetipping point, and it was the fact that the guy never pivoted. In fact he duginwent further with racist and sexist and xenophobia. You know the whole pieceswith the border wall, the way that he treated native Americans it just kept going. So there was no waythat I could continue to be in my right mind and stay part of that politicalparty, and we see now the rifts that are going on with it and it's all byproduct of him, not that it wasn't already happening, but it just exposeditself yeah. I think that a lot that was already happening and it was sortof like an unspoken thing, sort of happening behind the scenes a littlebit and trump was just just. He put it all out there like withno shame at all, so I mean looking back. I mean I hate toto harp on this, but like looking back, do you see any other signs within theRepublican Party? Maybe when you were a supporter that maybe you ignored andturned to Bli blind ie to ind ever trying o blind eye? But I mean therewere things that were going on when we saw a TEAP party coming o come into toDC, and but you know we could go all the way back to new gangeers. We gobetter back, probably a little bit further to Tbact, where the RepublicanParty just basically took a position where we're not going to do anythingwith Democrat, and you know I live in a city where there majority Democrat andwe have a saty council. We don't have one Republican on the city council. Idon't think that's necessarily healthy. I think, having too much of one thing is notnecessarily a good thing, but when we don't when we have a position wherepeople aren't actually listening because their hearts are so close, doit, then we have some problems. I think...

...that's what we see what's going onright now around the country and it's filtered down to the masses, and that'sthe that's the bigger issue that I think this country is faced with yeah. We could talk about that. I thinkin depth, but we wanted to discuss the fullof buster with you this time. Ithink we could have you back to do a whole show on that, but so Phillip Buster we we actually did anentire episode on it. Last time we I think last week or the week before and well just in case anybody's joining usthat doesn't know what the Filli buster is, because you know it's somethingthat maybe wasn't taught and cifics class as it should have been. How wouldyou explain the fhillibuster to somebody who doesn't know it's basically no different than it'sthe origin of its word and the meaning which I'm started off? Actually, withprivateer or pirates, stealing booty and treasure, you know and the way thatI look at the Fhilibuster, it's one party's or somebody within the party's way oftrying to hijack that political issue. I like tolook at the definition of politics: is politics is keeping an issue going longenough until it becomes irrelevant a been someone tries to fill a busterpesof legislation, they often are doing so to try to hijack it and steal it andthe stop it from passing, and they want to talk about the reasons why itshoiln't and they cas go, goes on and on and on on, but just overall it's it's. It's like trying to stealsomething in the night and as an African American, you know you can go back to reconstruction period afterreconstruction. You can see how fillobusters were used to try to promote that. I promote O legislationand keep legislation. That was pro racist for lack of a better wordand ingerms of where we are today. Thisnation is much better for its diversity and it's much stronger when we embraceour diverse population, but also diverse ideas, andthat means both Republican and Democrat or independent, and I think that webasically we've out grown the need for the fillabuster, though there are somepeople who still want to keep it alive because it helps them to continue pushit. There, agendas that they say is pro American, but, in my opinion, is veryUNAMERICAN, so are you advocating for the abolition, then, ofthe Filibuster as it now exists, or are you open to some more half measures, type eforms that wouldrain into Fili Uster Im, I'm port getting rid of a period? Ithink also when you look at the way that the Senate is made up even withthe way that we vote on issues. You know people normally like to use a termthe nuclear option they're just these different terms thatwe use. We live in a democratic society, Becoa di Democratic vote. So that's youknow. I think that when piece of legislation comes before the House orthe Senate, there is a committee process and the committee process iswhen issues should come up about why a piece of legislation should or shouldnot pass. The committee makes his RIGHTC recommendations at comes to thefloor. Let's just have a up and down vote on it. We can have the debate andthe have a up and down Bot and whatever is a majority, then that's the way thatwe should go. We should keep going on with all these other things that hinderthe whole democratic process and the ability to be able to get laws. Past yeah, it's the especially with michmcconnall, to the guys just he stopps so much legislation and thefhillibuster is just another means for him to do that, and he recently cameout and said quote: Nobody in this chamber can even begin to imagine whata complete scorched earth sent. It would look like he was talking about it.The if filbuster reform is past. What do you make of this threat from SenateMinority Leader Mishmcconnell? I'm trying to figure out ways O my little part of the world to do the things that I can and thethings that I did an work Ong in two thousand and twenty with other people, was getting people tovote and the recognition that elections have consequences and that's themessage that I was in Menth macona elections have consequences now whet wesee going on around thes country or states like Georgia, that are passingvoter suppression laws to keep people from Banan Bot because they lost anelection and what I see Mitchmcconell and theRepublicans doing is exactly what I was...

...taught and learned. The Republicans doand that's project and they're. Projecting as if- and this is whatfrustrates me right now- the Democrats appearing to be weak. Well, you HAV. Wegave you the majority, it's a slim majority and the Senate and and theHouse. What are you going to do with it? I don't really care what mistionmcconnal says about Scortert, because if they were in the rolls ere reversed,we should all know by now what the Republicans would do. So I think thet rather then pay attention to whatthey're talking about in terms of you can't get rid of fill ef used, it'sjust thee, they're governing ROM or trying to govern and trying to usetheir minority and be and use a fearful tactics, and I would love to see and ifthey don't do it I'll. Just try to do my own way that I think we have to comefrom positions of hope and I think that this country coming out we're trying toget from O pan of a pandemic. We saw a republicans, not one Republican votedfor a stimulus package buill as supposed to help all the Americans.That Democrats have the power right now they have the house to sin. I in thepresidency. They have't had that since two thousand and eight two thousand andnine- and I'm personally waiting to see whatthey'e going to do with it. So I could care less what Miss mcconals is yeah, and this the Scorch ers thing tois seems to me like to be an empty threat too, because he's pretty muchthreatening hes saying that wolls will make it. So the Senate is useless anddoesn't do anything, but we saw under his lead. That's exactly what washappening. anyways so he's like pretty much threatening what he's already beendoing or done in the past, and it's time that we actually start to pass some legislation in thiscountry that it helps people and doesn't only serve the the elite andthe rich and special interest troups. It's just Goden, so crazy and out ofhand how it's just so blatant in front of ourfaces. If you're paying attention weput, the REBLICAN party is notlooking out for the average American at all, and it blows my mind that peoplestill vote for anybody in that party because weld be much better off. If wewere trying to look at policies that actually helppeople, it's true, thet Bu, the with the sadpart, is that they're not even working to benefit the very people that theyneed to vote for them for them. You know you look at Georgia in Georgia was a huge win for Democrats,President Wone by twelve osand votes, senator warnock and Sener to Osof one bigger margins, but a lot of the peoplewho voted and the presidential election and Republicans side Dan come back outand vote in January duing that special election. So I think what Democratsneed to be doing is focus on getting legislation pass in read of you know,start worring about what the Te Republicans going to do, because that'swhat will excite the base? That is what will give people hope that will getpeople out to vote in two thousand and twenty two midterms. You know we had acampain. It was caled, two thousand and twenty. I won't say this here because Idon't know if you want to go ahead. It's fine. I saw what you're talkingabout you can say. We have a campaign to call two thousand and twenty fuckingmatters and we're coming back with midterms fucking matters and because itreally does, but the whole idea is not just to shock people, but it's toreally like inspired people and recognizing elections have consequences.So if we have the house in the Senate, people are going to continue to say-and I think the Democrats are trying to operate in this idea where, with thepresident, always loses thep President's party lose seats and themidterm elections that doesn't necessarily have to be the case. TheDemocrats can win and can and can get a larger mar majority. But they've got todo the work to excite the base and they've got to get people. You knowwhether or not as progressives who young people want to see somerelief with student loans, whetheror not is people who want to see well attaching the wealthy a bit more,because we've seen the largest transfer of wealth from the from the wealthy, Imean from the ports of the wealth, eter, the middle class or wealthy Dorin. Ipandymic and we've got to figure out some ways to really write that ship andPeople Republicans and Democrats need money and there, as a middle class andand for people who are both republicated Democrats. I think thatpeople got to be voting with their pockets in two thousand and twenty two,even like this year, ther'r special there's election that are gone on in VirginiaNew Jersey. This is all going to be helped to show as where, whereDemocrats do right now is going to help, show us what's going to happen in tothousand and twenty two, and I really think Democrats would be missing agreat opportunity if they do not do what we would see. The Republicans doif the Republicans were in a sliy majority right now, do you think theywouldn't get get rid of the nuclear option or the whole idea of having theor go to the nuclear option? The whole idea that you have to have sixty votesto do any major legislation, don't think they would. I think thatMiss mccolnangh would do whatever he needed to do to get his legislationpass, and I think that that's what Shuman needs to do, and I think in thehouse they're trying to do and hold the...

...line and the president should stop trying towork across the party lines. I know that's the tag line that we he supposed o Sav from a presidentialstandpoint, but right now people s not rellate, not too way straight thougthey're, not there all to warcross party lines, and that does I to stop soa we extended the or I should say Democrats, but I'm going to say wewhatever extended the you know the olive branch and said heythis in the Obama years. Well, try to work with you, but you know that didn'twork out. So why keep giving them that courtesyso screw them? That's what I say and you think thats political concerns arereally what the holdup is right now because,as you were saying a second ago at this point, Democrats control all the leversso of the party really wants to get this done. It's in a position to dothat, as you know, assuming that it can get the rank and file to fall on behind.But you know there have the opportunity here. What's what you know what's keeping thishypothetical and has kept the Senate for moving forwardalready ANI. Think also, I mean there's some things that really take note. Yougot people like Joe Mansion and Susan College and I fo others Christe cinemawho are in states where they have someRepublicans that they have to answer to so that gives themacross a even summermajority. But if you have these up and down boats, people tend to have a shortterm memory, but I think these are things that the Democrat should betaking notes and going back to, and two thousand and twenty two and making surethete and- and I'm not even going to put this all on Democrats us as Vodersneed to be remembering who is with us in the times of me, who was against Tusin the time of need and Wev got to keep bringing that up, and my big message, Ithink now at least that call to action that I have for myself is startworrying about what they elected officials do. Let's focus on what wecan do as citizens. Yes, that's right, and you know I think this is also a lot of propaganda towork against to because even you mentioned yearly Lik,everybody needs money and the middle classes dwindling. Yet there's a hugepercentage of this population that is worried about theirguns being taken away or them being forced to become transgender like thisis so much crazy, crap out there, and that really is the biggest battleis cutting through and and kind of waiting through. All of theBS, and I think a lot of that has te the battle. There is faugt as theindividual, as you said, maybe you open up these conversations with yourfamily. You know in a respectful way and start it there or your, maybe closefriends where you know you're not going to damage relationship. I don't knowlike any any advice from you Thas just a couple of my ideas. Yeah. I think wegot o stuff being afraid to have the conversation, and you know when the. Ifthose people who don't agree with you start yelling, you don't have to Yelback. I find that when people start yelling-and they start talking over yours- usually because they're insecure andthat's where you know but we've got ta find. I don't know what the what the languageis. Yet we've got to find some ways that are going to reunite us, but Ithink that by leading- and you know when I look back at history- I lo onethousand nine hundred and eighty one thousand nine hundred and ighty oneRonald Reagan came int office. You know why did the country support him, though there Wurd likepieces of legislation that went against the Majoa large part portion ofAmericans a lot of it was it was? It was slow, it was steady, he stayed onmessage and he provided a vision for where he wanted to take the country.That's what I think we really need to have today a message, and I think the message nowhas to be of hope, because people are tired of living in fear. We've beenliving that way for the last. What fourteen months, O thirteen fourteenmonths under a pandemic we've seen people lose jobs. thereare people whoare middle class whove been trying to support their Famili so e. So it's beentight because theyr family members have lost jobs, they've got kids who are incollege, who can't go and live on campus or are living in a hybrid typeof of campus ing there. All this tiing stuff has impacted us. The question ishow we going to touch the people's hearts and win them over and notnecessarily you don't have to necessarily when them over is aCumbiamon, but this you know what's what's what' the picture. What's in thebest interest for us as a country as Americans, and I mentioned every thebeginning, that our strength is really our diversity. Our weakness is stillour inabilities to embrace arti diversity, because the more that we do,that, the more that we are...

...can be threatened by outside forces andthat I think that's wher. We really keep saying. I don't think I hear eoughpeople talking about how the rushies and China are exploiting Ur ationbiggest natural national security threat, which is racism. Sexism is in aphobia yeah. I I can't agree with you more there. Well, we appreciate you coming on theshow and before e, let you go, though I did notice that you're the associateproducer on an upcoming Nicol, an OJ film. It's called the Coolan Olj. Whatcan you tell us about this project? Well, quick before I know that we'realmost hau o time with you- and I am sure you have things to do. I can tellyou that that film was supposed to h been done about a year ago. There weresome other things I got caught in some politics in Hollywood, SOT, okay, size step that one yeah that'shard to navigate that l, the Hollyway you know, but you by your listeners,aut the they if they, Google, Nicol and TAT OJ film, theyill, Fi theythey'll,see or you can see what I'm talking aboutin Cims of the politics a and that's one of the things that always sellpeople, there's politics and everything there's even politics and stuff inHollywood. Can I I can ask you about the project? Was it a documentary orwas it more of Wi? Okay, it's its actually. What do you call it? I'm trying tothink of it, it's is done in a in. I don't want to saysatirical way is done in it, but it's there, but the way that it is also done.It is all, grounded and based, in fact, and there's some things that happened.There was a first OJ trial. It was a second tril that a lot of people don'tmay not know about where OJ's attorneys tried to subpoena thephone records of the night. That Nicole called her parents, but it was lockedup in the first trial and that this movie is about that a a lot of oow,that's sforry yeah. I didn't know that it would have show it would have shownthe timestamp of when the call was made to show they coordinated with the time when Ojwas on this way to the airport is really interesting. In fact, when thedirector first brought into my attention, I waslike really- and I did my own research and it it's it's really true. So you can lookup fone records from the OJ Simson Trob that werelocked up and it was all part of another deal. Ofcan politics: it wasall part of another deal to suppress of other evidence in the first trial, wowyeah. He got the really good lawyers, that's for sure, yeah Mo can buy you alot of things right. That's true, that's true! Well, a Tima Badyan thinksso much for joining us. Working People find you and everything you do beforewe a tou point. Well, I have a book out and they want to find out some otherthings about me. They can just use my name, a Tiba, Ati Bas, a Boya and madJune madyu N Ta. I have a pronounced it the whole time, I'm so sorry, no, it's!Okay! It's okay! BEGAS it all the time, but it's, but it's a TVA Ma Gamcom,actually even asked your publicist how to pronounce an yeah, verybody Ha Somworr about it all right! well, t sorry again about that. Is We appreciate youbeing here and you have a great evening and you take care thanks for having inthank you. That's the first thing. Ouejust talkover talk over Ai Jus, get into it yeah, just that's our Rai rover. In fact, weshould be in er, you know werjecting with the guests. More often just greatguess, though, I'm not saying the guests did anything bad greatconversation, but we should just and it just jump in there we're too polite,but then e Dis, a great job to excellent interview. Yeah we're toopolite we're. You know, I think that we're maybe overcompesating but whichtrying to you, know oguess on it's used us or maybe of a die. You Know Lik sl, then the old EJ cShowi would I would, I would say the bloodhand gang is right up thereinellectually. I don't know what you're talking about Mer enough different topic, yeah different subject matter: Yeah Yeah,but you know whatever we covered a lot of ground, there's a lot to get tobcase, always there's a couple that hid twentysand dollars in Maine. If youguys want to go, try to find that, would you guys go in to treasure? Huntyou ha to find Twentythsan dollars just for fun. Oh, you wouldn't not if it involves like seventeen hoursof driving, but twenty I mean like any furthertwentysanolar enough to go on a treasure, Hunt and risk your life in Maine lit thisbig foot your life in foot. Now I think they have lobster dide. I go lookingfor big fut. I think that would be fun. That would be fun, but twenty Zand Golscar from that Stephen Kingbook that ran...

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